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11 August 2017 18:29 Post ID: #39024 - in reply to #37537
Ken Coote
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So, after a summer of rumblings, we are getting a revised design it seems with c17500 capacity, details to be publicised on Tuesday. We wait with great interest.
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12 August 2017 12:04 Post ID: #39026 - in reply to #37537
Stan Bowles
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Not like Brentford to disappoint us is it?

When clubs go to a new ground the attendances always rise by a certain amount. This won't be big enough, especially if we go up and interest grows. Lost income on match days. I hope long suffering fans don't lose out to the new glory hunter lot if that happens.

Don't mention Bournemouth. We are a bigger catchment with a bigger hard core of support.
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17 August 2017 00:15 Post ID: #39047 - in reply to #37537
Ken Coote
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Not sure what to think of the details that have been released so far to be honest. It seems a generally downsized stadium than what was previously extensively presented. Like CB I don't think it will be big enough and I am not sure about Premium seating at the half way line which smacks of corporatism ( will they be vacated 10 minutes either side of half time like the Emirates?)

Will wait and see the designs to try and get a feel for what it may be like.
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17 August 2017 20:43 Post ID: #39051 - in reply to #37537
Stan Bowles
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17,250 minus three thousand corporate, minus away allocation? As they say. Do the maths.
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17 August 2017 21:03 Post ID: #39052 - in reply to #39051
Badly handled & leaked months ago to a select few. Once in a lifetime chance to do this right now missed & takes a cost cutter from ryan air to pull it all apart. LR is the future of BFC, for the younger generations, our heart / soul in the community. Feel really disappointed with it all.
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17 August 2017 21:12 Post ID: #39053 - in reply to #37537
Paul Evans
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I think that, as usual, the communications have been poor but my take is that they are worried about the stadium turning, like many others have done with escalating costs, into a white elephant, in which case it could be a drag on the club rather than an asset. A tight ground in Brentford is better than a soulless bowl miles away and most of the money comes from TV anyway.
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18 August 2017 00:37 Post ID: #39054 - in reply to #39053
It's a lock & leave stadium Spanish, no offices, shop, bar, 3k premium (corporate) seats around the middle ring, token safe standing provision, leaving almost no home capacity increase on GP. So hardly a sustainable community stadium as sold to fans / LBH etc. How have costs spiralled? oh let's roll out the Brexit card which under scrutiny doesn't really hold water. The more you read about this the more it is off, and the lack of consultation with those that fought to make it happen is poor. Maybe it was never viable or affordable hence the Ryan air cost cutter being hired to strip it down. Oh & no images of version 2.0 yet after months of rework on the design - why?

Something very off about this imho!

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18 August 2017 16:20 Post ID: #39056 - in reply to #37537
Stan Bowles
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If it's lock and leave, we should just lock and leave at Griffin Park.
The reason we were sold and many thought a good idea to leave Griffin Park was because it would be working seven days a week, but if it's lock and leave then it isn't exactly that is it?
I wonder how many of those going to Workington or Hartlepools on cold Tuesday nights will be left to feel out in the cold because they can't get tickets thanks to the new influx of fans that will appear?
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19 August 2017 13:28 Post ID: #39057 - in reply to #39054
Paul Evans
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Totally agree about the lack of consultation which was my comment about communication. It isn't what was promised, but then neither is Brexit. This is not a political forum so I won't bang on, but all the signs so far, investment, growth, business uncertainty, the pound, the clowns running the show suggest that it isn't going to be pretty. If it was my money, I would be worried right now.
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20 August 2017 09:24 Post ID: #39060 - in reply to #39057
Brexit wasn't my thing Spanish but it has become a blanket excuse for many things, I could find plenty of employment/ economic data to debunk the assertion that the UK is in free fall (to date anyway). The words community & sustainable have gone from the project. Who knows why, the numbers worked a few years back & not now, where will property prices be in 2 years - nobody knows so I'd like to know more about what has changed? Possibly LR was never going to add up & the reality has set in, maybe it's get to the Prem, MB gets his investment back & new ownership. Not majorly critical if this is correct but don't take fans for dummies pls.

Brexit is far to simple & an excuse imo.

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20 August 2017 10:47 Post ID: #39061 - in reply to #39060
Paul Evans
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Totally accept what you say about it being too simple an excuse, but let us accept that we are economically in times of uncertainty. This is a similar pattern, they make a decision without telling anybody and then handle the flak afterwards. This is a major change and I suppose we will get told a story eventually and I think we deserve something that at least sounds credible. I noticed that in the statement the word 'Risk' appeared several times.
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20 August 2017 20:11 Post ID: #39063 - in reply to #37537
Paul Evans
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According to BIAS, they have been working on these changes since May last year. Not consulting the customers seems to me a bit dumb in this day and age, when they have had plenty of time to do so.
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20 August 2017 21:35 Post ID: #39064 - in reply to #39063
Agree - we are all on the mailing list, god knows I get plenty. Dropping this on the opening week of the season & before the Bristol game was unhelpful imo. Bad comms habits that don't get better. The Ryan Air guy on the payroll should arouse enough suspicion in itself.
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21 August 2017 08:40 Post ID: #39065 - in reply to #37537
Paul Evans
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Ryanair - no doubt they are reducing the number of toilets.
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21 August 2017 12:08 Post ID: #39066 - in reply to #39065
Ken Coote
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I guess once a few pictures of LR mark 2 get published (odd that there are none) we might get a bit more excited but it certainly all feels a bit flat, not helped by such a bad start to the season.
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22 August 2017 14:28 Post ID: #39069 - in reply to #39065
Stan Bowles
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[This was meant to include Spanish Bees comment about toilets to make sense!] - Stoopid internet

Nooooooo!

That's the only thing attracting me to a new ground!
Otherwise I'm happy staying where we are.
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