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David Won't Go For Buttons
15 July 2016 17:56 Post ID: #37902
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It's being reported that Brentford have slapped a £2million price tag on goalkeeper David Button in an attempt to thwart interest in the player by Fulham.

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16 July 2016 13:24 Post ID: #37904 - in reply to #37902
Don't mind him moving onto better himself, other than the money he won't achieve this at FFC slugging it out with Bettinelli. Bit of a kick in the nuts but we've played a blinder & Bentley will do me just fine.

It's a reminder to old skoolers like me that whilst we idolise these players it's all those that have put bfc in the big time that deserve the adulation. Support the players - love the club!
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17 July 2016 15:33 Post ID: #37905 - in reply to #37902
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He's gone, £2m. That's a lot of money to have competition for the keeper's jersey. I smell a rat and wonder if Bettinelli's on his way.
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18 July 2016 14:58 Post ID: #37906 - in reply to #37902
Is it confirmed then? £2M is decent for both parties considering the length of contract and what FFC are getting. If they get DB at his brilliant best then they will have improved the GK position. He is a real confidence player and prone to the yips now and again - i'd have worried about this given the attention he'd receive in the PL, but in this division he's proven and very decent.

Other than our games with Fulham I say good luck to him and thanks for all that you achieved in your time at GP. When he plays against us he's in our way and will be treated accordingly.
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19 July 2016 09:04 Post ID: #37910 - in reply to #37902
Is it official yet with Button, anyone know what the deal was?

Also a bit of a curve ball with Vibe being away for the 1st 4 games, that's not helping at all.

I do feel we need to get a couple more signings done soon as poss, the squad currently looks stronger but lighter, and lacks a little width and pace. Maybe condor can do the squad update for us, that's 3 out plus a couple released, and 3 in.

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20 July 2016 10:10 Post ID: #37915 - in reply to #37902
Feel like i'm answering my own posts here, but anyway David has now gone off to Button moon and will ply his trade up the road at the oh so "massive former premier league European finalists". Looking around social media last night, god these new lot really have no comprehension of the world pre Al Fayed. Fortunately there are old school Fulham chaps I know that get it and kinda see us and them in a more even light.

So it's a thank you to Button from me, you've been great and left a solid legacy, but you are now with them and in our way - and we've played a blinder in handling his reluctance to sign a new deal.

these latest transfers show us all how it has to be from now on, we support and admire our players during their time with us, but we need to channel our love and more into the institution that is BFC and the people that have brought us back to life. Buy your ST's, bring your mates, get as much bees merch and spend all you can, let's make GP noisy and hostile again. Do that and we'll have bigger things than a local squabble to think about .
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20 July 2016 16:50 Post ID: #37916 - in reply to #37902
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Dear All

I am not sure that selling to local rivals is a particularly good idea.

If the boy Bentley and whoever the new left-back is turn out to be good signings, the policy works no question. In the case of the opposite happening it will be used against the DOFs for sure. It's a gamble.

Quite why a confidence keeper has made the "easy decision" (his words) to join a poor side with a crap defence can only come down to money, and the fact that he is not even guaranteed to be first-choice makes it even weirder. With every year that goes by the modern footballer looks no further than a three year pay packet, even if his career prospects are potentially harmed by it.

Regards

Gordon
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21 July 2016 08:42 Post ID: #37918 - in reply to #37902
Hello Gordon,interesting, your last paragraph is telling - on the face of it a weird move for DB. I'm guessing that both DB and JB were left with little option other than to go with what seemed to be the only offers in town. Sure they've increased their earnings but at best have gone sideways. I'm thinking it was very tactical on our part, weighing up selling to neighbours against the £3M received for soon to be out of contract players. You also picked up on Button's easy decision comment, i didn't like that and hope we remind him of this when he's picking the ball out of the net against us..

High risk as you say, if they both do really well and we struggle it'll blow back o the DOF's. On balance i'm OK with it, just.


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21 July 2016 10:43 Post ID: #37919 - in reply to #37902
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Agree with above comments it seems a sideways move but maybe doubling or trebling his wages was the key. I don't really blame him, at 27 this could be a life changing move for him finance wise and maybe his last opportunity.

He may see Fulham as having bigger potential and they are certainly splashing the cash. Time will tell if the move follows that of Simon Moore or he becomes a PL player which I think his talent deserves. We are putting a lot of faith in Bentley but if the hype is realised we may have made some astute decisions here. I also think this is the season Bonham steps up, clearly the club have a lot of faith in him.

Roll on August I can't wait for the season to start. Can't make Hudders but looking forward to the 13th and the return of normality, had enough of this off season now....
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24 July 2016 16:17 Post ID: #37932 - in reply to #37902
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I don't see how it's the DoF's fault. Surely it's down to Benham to decide if a player starting his last year of his contract - and who refuses the offer on the table - is sold and at what price. He will also be aware as to what is out there in terms of replacements. Apparently there is no affordable, young, quality left back in the lower leagues and it looks like we'll be relying on loanees or current squad players - none of whom I believe to be good enough yet.

Apparently Button went for £1.5m plus £0.5m add ons. I hope that isn't based on the number of goals he has to score!
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24 July 2016 21:11 Post ID: #37934 - in reply to #37902
"Fault" wasn't quite what was said tbf beefeater, the DoF's are responsible for recruitment & contract management. We had 2 key contracts up & have not been able to retain either player. We all get why, but PG/RA will be judged on the big calls they have to make, if as you suggest we can't recruit a replacement LB it will seem like poor planning. And if JB & DB do well at their new clubs it'll be hard to swallow for many, hence why I suggested it could blow back on the DoF's.
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27 July 2016 08:07 Post ID: #37938 - in reply to #37902
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Dear Mr Beefeater

I suggest you read my comments again.

You might also want to reflect on the fact that Phil Giles was quoted twice as saying more or less that some fans wouldn't be happy about selling to local rivals but it was the best deal for the club.

I realise of course there's a committee to decide these things, but the buck stops with the DOFs.

My issue is with selling Bidwell without having a replacement lined up, but let's see what happens over the next week.

Regards

Gordon

Edited by gordonbankole 27/7/2016 08:09
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28 July 2016 11:40 Post ID: #37941 - in reply to #37902
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What makes you think I was responding to you Gordon?

Rebel, I don't think it's a great leap from 'being held responsible' to being 'at fault'.

It's good to know we can be as pedantic as the GPG on here. Happy days.
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28 July 2016 12:40 Post ID: #37943 - in reply to #37902
Come on Beefeater, neither GB or myself said what you'd implied, so a correction was fair imo. If you read the posts again you'll see that.

If DB/JB tear it up at our local rivals there will be a sizable section of our support that won't be having it at all. It's a ballsy call by BFC via the DoF's - which I accept and understand.

Nothing much to see here mate, with respect i think you are trying too hard to over protect BFC & DoF's when it isn't needed this time round.

Edited by RebelBee 28/7/2016 13:09
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30 July 2016 14:37 Post ID: #37944 - in reply to #37902
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Rebel, I never said that either you or Gordon implied that it would be the DoF's fault - your implication was that it would be seen that way by fans if they turn out to be uber successful at their respective new clubs.

I was pretty much agreeing that it would be an unfair laying of blame on the DoFs because MB makes the decisions, firstly on at what level to offer any new contract on and secondly the value of the player with only one year of his contract left.

The DoFs can't offer Button £10k a week if MB doesn't sanction it. Neither can they let him go to Leeds for £500k if Fulham offer three times as much.

Anyway, we'll finish above both of them!

Friends again?
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31 July 2016 07:35 Post ID: #37945 - in reply to #37902
All good beefeater, always was mate. I needed to clarify my thoughts on this as it wasn't negative at all, the defenders of the realm are already on patrol ready to jump on anyone who strays from the party line.

Anyway I was at wall yesterday, nice to see some of the chaps and to imbibe around LB /Borough. Decent little turn out from us despite Southern rail's incompetence, 400 odd, but really poor from them, less than 2k at TC's testimonial!

Game was poor, we were lucky not to get well beaten. Yes it is only a friendly and they don't matter but on the evidence I've seen we seem weeks off being ready. We have good players but I've no idea what his starting 11 will be or should be. Back 4 look leggy, not much spark in midfield, Hogan isolated. Plus another crop of injuries. We have this habit of knocking the ball around without purpose, then lose possession inviting pressure on ourselves, we won't gain points from winning opta possession stats.

On what ive seen the new boys will take time to settle but will all be decent, Elder looked steady. Holdback can't be far off and some of the youngsters have done well in pre season. The enigma will be Josh, one delicious forward pass was his afternoon's contribution - sadly not enough.

I hope we can get the Exeter boy in because as we all know we lack direct pace & power in forward positions.

Anyway bring on the real stuff next week then we can have a proper look at where we are.




Edited by RebelBee 31/7/2016 07:38
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31 July 2016 16:26 Post ID: #37946 - in reply to #37902
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Nice one Rebel, I never made it to Millwall but heard it on Beesplayer and it sounded pretty grim at the back. We've always struggled with direct long ball play haven't we. Is Harlee playing himself out of the side? Is Egan a better fit? In theory we've got the two lefties: Barbet and Bjellend fighting it out for one spot and the two righties: Dean and Egan fighting for the other. I suppose it's a good position to be in but we might need to try a few combinations to see which works best.

The best thing to come out of yesterday was Smith's post match interview - very unhappy! I don't think he's going to let that nonsense carry on for too long.

MacEachran is an enigma isn't he. From what I've seen so far this pre-season Woods, Macleod and Sawyers are starters. I can see MacEachran dropping down when Nico is back - and if that is too far away Macca can take his place for now. We need better than Saunders, someone more driving with the ball - is the Exeter lad that kind of player? What's Jota up to?
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